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02/07/2006 10:39 PM Alert 
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02/07/2006 10:48 PM Alert 
Instant Explosion of Water?
A claim has been made from a individual that he has a ignition system in his car that will automatically convert water mist into explosive power. He has supposedly modified his car. His user name is s1r9a9m9

We are trying to replicate the apparatus to verify if it works. The carburetor is used normally, but water is used instead of gasoline and is atomized and during compression the spark plug creates a high voltage high amperage plasma spark pulse in the combustion chamber that runs the car. I see a remarkable resemblance to the Water Fuel Injector.

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02/22/2006 11:15 AM Alert 

I have added about 15 new documents to the WFC document library.
Thank to Micheal Cagan from Spain. Here is the link
http://www.opensourceenergy.org/C19/H2%20Generator/Document%20Library/Forms/AllItems.aspx


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09/17/2006 8:31 AM Alert 

I am a newcomer so please forgive my ignorance. I am very interested to build the WFC and run my car on water, and I have seen Stan Meyers plans. Before I do so, do you think it's legal to adopt his invention?

If it is ok, then I would like to know, how thick/high/dia etc the steel tubes in the Reaction chamber should be and what material?

Regards,

Peter Cheng

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09/20/2006 12:33 PM Alert 
How is the water Fuel injector going?

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02/25/2008 10:56 PM Alert 

Why did Stan use the electric motor hooked to an alternator. Isn't a battery charger or 12v transformer pack from my Tyco race track simpler to use. I can even get the voltage from a small battery and then recharge it. Did he only use it because he was attempting to show that it would work on a car's electrical system? If so wouldn't he realize that we aren't so dumb that we know 12vDC is 12vDC regardless of the source? Maybe Stan wasn't smart enough to figure that out, maybe he didn't realize that you can get the required voltage from those other sources. I have actually used the Tyco transformer in small experiments, it gives me 18vDC at 850MA, close enough to the .5 amps that Stan talked about. How is it that Stan couldn't figure this out when so many of us have? Maybe the Tyco race car transformers and battery chargers weren't invented way back in the late 80's and early 90's.

 Oh' wait, I'm 32, and I remember playing with Tyco car sets back when I was eight or ten. As a matter of fact the one I used came out of a set that purchased at a yard sale it was from 1986. I remember going fishing and having to put the trolling motor battery on charge when we got back in, that was when I was 12 in 1987.

Why are those questions important to the WFC. Because, people need to realize that they are not smarter than Stan, they need to realize that they should go back and start over. You cannot replicate his work with a batterty or battery charger, he didn't use one. I don't know about 555 timers and mosfets. What I do know is that he said he used a VIC, and if you check his schematics and sinewave patterns and  then check here http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/dcreschg.html you will see that he simply used a Nikola Tesla resonant tank circuit. WHY did he use the alternator instead of a simpler method? Go here http://www.rexresearch.com/puharich/1puhar.htm and you will see that Andrija Puharich's work is almost the exact same as Stan's. Enough to raise questions on who invented it first! But the most important thing to note is that Andrija says to use audio oscillator to create a complex wave where you will have an AM radio frequency of 600hz+/-5hz imposed on an AC carrier wave. The voltage isn't used alone, it has an audio signal combined into it.

Why did Stan Meyer use an alternator? If you have an old car that runs (some may remember this) start it, turn the radio to AM and rev the engine, you will hear the RF coming through the speakers. It will change pitch with the RPM's of the engine, it is not an airborne signal, you can't pick it up with a radio sat on the hood right over the alternator. It is a complex AM signal imposed onto the alternators carrier wave. But an alternator is a DC power source. Wrong, and alternator makes AC current, it is turned into DC by going through diodes that act as bridge rectifiers and then regulated to between 12-14 volts. Stan then doubled that voltage with a VIC(which I have already established as and revealed is a resonant tank circuit)

Stan was a redneck, the man owned a dune buggy in Ohio for Christ's sake. He said things that didn't makes sense to brainiacs, and totally confused the normal people. Because he was smarter than most of us, but not as educated as some of them (notice the distinction I make between education and intelligence). In his attempts to clarify his invention's usefulness and operational parameters he tried to sound more educated than he really was. His intelligence probably wasn't over theirs, he just had a different way of thinking, a more mechanical way. How many physicists can point out an alternator, let alone tell you what functions it serves? How many mechanics can tell you about the amplitude modulated frequencies that emanate from an oscillated electrical generator, let alone realize that it is a simple alternator. How did i figure this out?  http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=717 Go ahead and check it out, don't get upset if I don't email you back, you may just need to find the answer in the post, but for the most part I try to email everyone back that takes the time to write me. Lately that has become a fulltime job. I have be called a liar, I have been challenged and yet if I'm wrong then how come I am the only person that has been able to answer the very questions I posed at the top of this post. But to be fair I believe in the old addage, "Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see". So don't believe it. Try it and see it for yourself.

 

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02/25/2008 10:57 PM Alert 

Why did Stan use the electric motor hooked to an alternator. Isn't a battery charger or 12v transformer pack from my Tyco race track simpler to use. I can even get the voltage from a small battery and then recharge it. Did he only use it because he was attempting to show that it would work on a car's electrical system? If so wouldn't he realize that we aren't so dumb that we know 12vDC is 12vDC regardless of the source? Maybe Stan wasn't smart enough to figure that out, maybe he didn't realize that you can get the required voltage from those other sources. I have actually used the Tyco transformer in small experiments, it gives me 18vDC at 850MA, close enough to the .5 amps that Stan talked about. How is it that Stan couldn't figure this out when so many of us have? Maybe the Tyco race car transformers and battery chargers weren't invented way back in the late 80's and early 90's.

 Oh' wait, I'm 32, and I remember playing with Tyco car sets back when I was eight or ten. As a matter of fact the one I used came out of a set that purchased at a yard sale it was from 1986. I remember going fishing and having to put the trolling motor battery on charge when we got back in, that was when I was 12 in 1987.

Why are those questions important to the WFC. Because, people need to realize that they are not smarter than Stan, they need to realize that they should go back and start over. You cannot replicate his work with a batterty or battery charger, he didn't use one. I don't know about 555 timers and mosfets. What I do know is that he said he used a VIC, and if you check his schematics and sinewave patterns and  then check here http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/dcreschg.html you will see that he simply used a Nikola Tesla resonant tank circuit. WHY did he use the alternator instead of a simpler method? Go here http://www.rexresearch.com/puharich/1puhar.htm and you will see that Andrija Puharich's work is almost the exact same as Stan's. Enough to raise questions on who invented it first! But the most important thing to note is that Andrija says to use audio oscillator to create a complex wave where you will have an AM radio frequency of 600hz+/-5hz imposed on an AC carrier wave. The voltage isn't used alone, it has an audio signal combined into it.

Why did Stan Meyer use an alternator? If you have an old car that runs (some may remember this) start it, turn the radio to AM and rev the engine, you will hear the RF coming through the speakers. It will change pitch with the RPM's of the engine, it is not an airborne signal, you can't pick it up with a radio sat on the hood right over the alternator. It is a complex AM signal imposed onto the alternators carrier wave. But an alternator is a DC power source. Wrong, and alternator makes AC current, it is turned into DC by going through diodes that act as bridge rectifiers and then regulated to between 12-14 volts. Stan then doubled that voltage with a VIC(which I have already established as and revealed is a resonant tank circuit)

Stan was a redneck, the man owned a dune buggy in Ohio for Christ's sake. He said things that didn't makes sense to brainiacs, and totally confused the normal people. Because he was smarter than most of us, but not as educated as some of them (notice the distinction I make between education and intelligence). In his attempts to clarify his invention's usefulness and operational parameters he tried to sound more educated than he really was. His intelligence probably wasn't over theirs, he just had a different way of thinking, a more mechanical way. How many physicists can point out an alternator, let alone tell you what functions it serves? How many mechanics can tell you about the amplitude modulated frequencies that emanate from an oscillated electrical generator, let alone realize that it is a simple alternator. How did i figure this out?  http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=717 Go ahead and check it out, don't get upset if I don't email you back, you may just need to find the answer in the post, but for the most part I try to email everyone back that takes the time to write me. Lately that has become a fulltime job. I have be called a liar, I have been challenged and yet if I'm wrong then how come I am the only person that has been able to answer the very questions I posed at the top of this post. But to be fair I believe in the old addage, "Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see". So don't believe it. Try it and see it for yourself.

 

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02/25/2008 10:57 PM Alert 

Why did Stan use the electric motor hooked to an alternator. Isn't a battery charger or 12v transformer pack from my Tyco race track simpler to use. I can even get the voltage from a small battery and then recharge it. Did he only use it because he was attempting to show that it would work on a car's electrical system? If so wouldn't he realize that we aren't so dumb that we know 12vDC is 12vDC regardless of the source? Maybe Stan wasn't smart enough to figure that out, maybe he didn't realize that you can get the required voltage from those other sources. I have actually used the Tyco transformer in small experiments, it gives me 18vDC at 850MA, close enough to the .5 amps that Stan talked about. How is it that Stan couldn't figure this out when so many of us have? Maybe the Tyco race car transformers and battery chargers weren't invented way back in the late 80's and early 90's.

 Oh' wait, I'm 32, and I remember playing with Tyco car sets back when I was eight or ten. As a matter of fact the one I used came out of a set that purchased at a yard sale it was from 1986. I remember going fishing and having to put the trolling motor battery on charge when we got back in, that was when I was 12 in 1987.

Why are those questions important to the WFC. Because, people need to realize that they are not smarter than Stan, they need to realize that they should go back and start over. You cannot replicate his work with a batterty or battery charger, he didn't use one. I don't know about 555 timers and mosfets. What I do know is that he said he used a VIC, and if you check his schematics and sinewave patterns and  then check here http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/dcreschg.html you will see that he simply used a Nikola Tesla resonant tank circuit. WHY did he use the alternator instead of a simpler method? Go here http://www.rexresearch.com/puharich/1puhar.htm and you will see that Andrija Puharich's work is almost the exact same as Stan's. Enough to raise questions on who invented it first! But the most important thing to note is that Andrija says to use audio oscillator to create a complex wave where you will have an AM radio frequency of 600hz+/-5hz imposed on an AC carrier wave. The voltage isn't used alone, it has an audio signal combined into it.

Why did Stan Meyer use an alternator? If you have an old car that runs (some may remember this) start it, turn the radio to AM and rev the engine, you will hear the RF coming through the speakers. It will change pitch with the RPM's of the engine, it is not an airborne signal, you can't pick it up with a radio sat on the hood right over the alternator. It is a complex AM signal imposed onto the alternators carrier wave. But an alternator is a DC power source. Wrong, and alternator makes AC current, it is turned into DC by going through diodes that act as bridge rectifiers and then regulated to between 12-14 volts. Stan then doubled that voltage with a VIC(which I have already established as and revealed is a resonant tank circuit)

Stan was a redneck, the man owned a dune buggy in Ohio for Christ's sake. He said things that didn't makes sense to brainiacs, and totally confused the normal people. Because he was smarter than most of us, but not as educated as some of them (notice the distinction I make between education and intelligence). In his attempts to clarify his invention's usefulness and operational parameters he tried to sound more educated than he really was. His intelligence probably wasn't over theirs, he just had a different way of thinking, a more mechanical way. How many physicists can point out an alternator, let alone tell you what functions it serves? How many mechanics can tell you about the amplitude modulated frequencies that emanate from an oscillated electrical generator, let alone realize that it is a simple alternator. How did i figure this out?  http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=717 Go ahead and check it out, don't get upset if I don't email you back, you may just need to find the answer in the post, but for the most part I try to email everyone back that takes the time to write me. Lately that has become a fulltime job. I have be called a liar, I have been challenged and yet if I'm wrong then how come I am the only person that has been able to answer the very questions I posed at the top of this post. But to be fair I believe in the old addage, "Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see". So don't believe it. Try it and see it for yourself.

 

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02/26/2008 8:06 AM Alert 
Posted By matthewc02 on 02/07/2006 10:48 PM
Instant Explosion of Water?
A claim has been made from a individual that he has a ignition system in his car that will automatically convert water mist into explosive power. He has supposedly modified his car. His user name is s1r9a9m9

Mathew, I would be interested to see s1r9a9m9's claim. Do you have additional information or links?
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